Into the Conservative Echo Chamber…What Are They Saying?

I encourage people to send me the Right wing email forwards that they get because I think we should all see what these folks are saying. I just got this one, which is a string of memes. Most of these are laughable, so let’s take a look:

Interestingly enough, Diane Sawyer grew up a Republican. She worked in the Nixon White House, serving under Press Secretary Ron Ziegler. But she does make millions as an anchor. I am unfamiliar with her ever calling a CEO greedy.
First of all, “liberals” don’t call all CEOs greedy. In fact several CEOs are big liberal heroes. Some CEOs are questioned because they publicly argue that they are entitled to keep higher profits at the expense of the deficit and when asked about not contributing to the deficit respond that we should cut public spending more, even though public spending is what trains their workers, pays for the health care of those they’ve cut off, and provides pensions to those they’ve kicked off private pension plans. Pay for actors may be out of whack, but there is something to be said for the fact that Ford’s pay does not necessarily come with the conceit that the system owes him more. Actors also generally pay higher taxes than CEOs because actor income is taxed as income (given his pay that would put him at 35%) while CEOs receive a lot of compensation as stock options. These are taxed as capital gains — 15%. If you want a simple explanation for the difference between these two it’s that the CEO thinks that, for the same pay, he’s entitled to pay 20% less in taxes than Ford.
Michelle Obama is the First Lady and when she travels on state visits she must travel with security and aides and it is expensive. That said, these weren’t truly “vacations” to the extent she visited foreign leaders, in particular the King of Spain. Contrast it to the millions we spent letting Bush hang out at his Crawford ranch (and I don’t begrudge him the vacation, but just out of fairness, Michelle has spent less than Bush and at least performed state business on the trip). The Romney issue is not “wrong” as much as it’s an atrociously tone deaf move for someone involved in a Presidential campaign during a struggling economy.
This is accurate. That said, I can think of people who have served in the House and Senate for 4 times as long as both that all of us would agree have no qualifications to be President. Length of experience in a legislature is not a perfect proxy for competence to be President.
It is completely false that he doesn’t hire black lawyers. That said, there are rumblings that black lawyers at SPLC have left with a bad experience, so there MIGHT be something there. That said, comparing SPLC (a civil rights organization that hires black lawyers every year) to the Tea Party (only 1% black) is laughable.
These numbers are completely wrong. To get the “8.3” number (or other numbers like it tossed around) involves ignoring massive profits oil companies make at other stages of the process. All the upstream earnings of oil companies — yes, they may make 8 cents on sales of refined oil, but that ignores the fact that most of their profits come from producing and selling crude oil. In recent years, of the top 10 most profitable companies in the world, 6 are in the oil business. You don’t get there with a margin of 8 cents.
This is a new phenomenon of a dying CPUSA, no longer able to fund its own candidate. That said, Democrats don’t take marching orders from CPUSA and CPUSA doesn’t have the money to get a seat at the table with a candidate. On the other hand, the GOP does take marching orders from the NRA and the NRA funds GOP candidates in large sums and runs its own major SuperPAC fielding its own commercials and advertising. And did you catch the image of Obama and Edwards together? Priceless.
I have no legal problem with people displaying a confederate flag, but when a state government (*cough* South Carolina *cough*) felt the need to put the flag on the state capitol building for years, that was a problem. But this is where you see the true colors of these pictures. Slavery symbols are cool…really? “I hate liberals because they are uncomfortable with slavery” is a bad argument.
Dan Rather was wrong about the memo. Romney is actually lying about job losses (the only way to get to his number is to blame Obama for January 2009…when he didn’t even get to office until January 20th, much less have a chance to pass any laws and have those go into effect), and Romney even admitted that this was a misleading lie…when someone did it to him while he was Governor of Massachusetts.
This involves cherry-picking quotes. Scott Lively did assist the Ugandan government with a law that provides the death penalty for gays. Dan Savage is an advice columnist who, as far as I know, has never assisted a Third World Country in committing murder.
Obama’s past is relevant and publicly known. The actual complaint here is that conservatives want the fake past they WISH was true about Obama to be relevant. They want it to be relevant that Obama was born in Kenya (he wasn’t) and was part of a domestic terror group (he wasn’t). And the only Romney past that liberals think is relevant is exactly the one that noted left winger Newt Gingrich said (paraphrasing), “Romney says we can’t talk about Bain and we can’t talk about Massachusetts…then what exactly is left.”
All those people are rich. No one denies that. Is there an argument here? No? OK then.
This is the mentality of the Right in America today. Half-truths and outright lies presented with a smirk. Until we start fundamentally teaching everyone in this country the value of evidence-based argument, this is the future of discourse.

6 comments for “Into the Conservative Echo Chamber…What Are They Saying?

  1. KrisWV
    July 18, 2012 at 9:36 am

    The Quayle slide isn’t correct in any sense. When Senator Quayle was added to GHWB’s ticket, the doubt was not based on experience — it was based on his slightness and his apparent intelligence. The intelligence rap may have been unfair, but the fact that Quayle disappeared after his stint as VP suggests that yes, he really was not an “essential leader for America.” Oh, and his legislative record at the time would mark him as RINO by today’s standards…

  2. Barry Lydgate
    July 18, 2012 at 10:01 am

    Well, the spelling says it all: Naziis! You’re point?

    • Ed Drone
      July 18, 2012 at 11:40 am

      You’re point?


      (That’s a quote from another of their slides.)

  3. muddy
    July 18, 2012 at 11:35 am

    My issue with the Confederate flag is that it is the flag of treason against the USA. It is not just offensive due to slavery, it is offensive due to the fact that they were engaged in treason.

    This is an argument I have used when discussing the topic with racists. They don’t give a damn about the slaves, but patriotism…omg

  4. dj spellchecka
    July 18, 2012 at 3:54 pm

    the more slides i looked at the more they raised a nagging question…are conservatives really this stupid?

    (yes, they are that stupid)

  5. November 28, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    a bunch of ad hominem falacies no actual information

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